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karennma
8,057 posts
msg #105855
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4/9/2012 7:04:09 AM

Re: "Grateful for our CONSTITUTION being ignored and our LIBERTY and FREEDOM vanishing right before our eyes? "
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Internet rants are all well and good. But my question is ... What are you going to DO about it?




karennma
8,057 posts
msg #105856
Ignore karennma
4/9/2012 7:10:48 AM

This thread is FOUR years old. It started out as a rant about "illegals" ... who within 5 years will OUTNUMBER US citizens.
NOTHING was done.
Now, people are b*tchin' about their constitutional rights being trampled.
I repeat ...
WHAT are you going to do about it?

Same as the illegal immigrant issue?
NOTHING.

Keep voting. Sheeple!


dangreene
229 posts
msg #105857
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4/9/2012 7:24:50 AM

TRO,

" Grateful for our CONSTITUTION being ignored and our LIBERTY and FREEDOM vanishing right before our eyes? "

Must be that everyone believed George Bush, who said, - - - - - "It's just a piece of paper".


kahern1014
13 posts
msg #105860
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4/9/2012 12:18:06 PM

A revolution is needed.... but revolutions do not occur unless a majority of people are denied basic needs - - - food, water, shelter. When we get to that point, a revolution will occur, and change will occur. Too many people are content...

olathegolf
119 posts
msg #105862
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4/9/2012 1:46:43 PM

This is a well documented statement from Obama in January 2001:

"The Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society. And to that extent, as radical as I think people tried to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn't that radical. It didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, as least as it's been interpreted, and [sic] Warren Court interpreted in the same way that, generally, the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties, says what the states can't do to you, says what the federal government can't do to you, but it doesn't say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf."

Negative civil liberties. Think hard about that.

Unfortunately, we have been traveling toward the cliff for a number of years. Obama just has his foot on the gas.

I heard someone say that we have a single party system with two faces. That may be truer than we think. There are many lemmings on both sides of the aisle. I don't believe that not voting is the answer. Voting likely is the answer. We need more of what happened in the elections of 2010.

machismo
115 posts
msg #105867
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4/10/2012 1:07:36 AM

"It started out as a rant about "illegals" ... who within 5 years will OUTNUMBER US citizens. "

@karennma is that a typo or are you saying the illegals will outnumber the 300 plus million Americans ?

Also the Obama statement from 2001 fact checked:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/10/obamas_redistribution_bombshel.html
http://www.foxnews.com/urgent_queue/#50041ecb,2008-10-27
http://mediamatters.org/print/research/200810280015

karennma
8,057 posts
msg #105878
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4/10/2012 1:05:15 PM

machismo
111 posts
msg #105867
- machismo 4/10/2012 1:07:36 AM

@karennma is that a typo or are you saying the illegals will outnumber the 300 plus million Americans ?
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No, that was NOT a typo.
I do a lot of work in an immigrant community. 90% of my clients are immigrants. I CAN see the forest for the trees.
It's a no brainer.
Being a first generation American myself (my parents came here over 60 yrs. ago, LEGALLY) , I really don't care to focus on "illegals" anymore. It's a waste of time. They are not "going home". America is their home. Been to TEXAS lately? What about California, Arizona, New York or Chicago? .. ROFLMAO! .. I remember 7 yrs. ago, when people were b*tchin' about illegal immigration ONLINE. Yes, online! They sat on their butts, and DID nothing. Now, in the current Presidential campaign, it's a non-issue.
My original point was, if someone doesn't like the way things are going (i.e., loss of Constitutional Rights, Airport x-rays, etc.) .. my question is: WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
outnumbered





machismo
115 posts
msg #105883
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4/10/2012 3:11:07 PM

karennma: ok so you are combining two different things. Majority of population being more ethnic, i.e states like Texas, California, and so on. But that is no exactly same thing as being over taken by illegals. Official illegal population is about 20 million, and say you double that to 40 million just for the sake of being wrong on the illegal counting number, that is still not anywhere close to 300 plus legal American citizens(including ethnic).
Yes ethnic population, mainly Hispanic population is driving the minority growth through procreation mainly and by legal citizens but how do you suppose you stop that ? or more importantly why, or what gives you the right to do that ? if that is what you are implying.

But most of all internet or even tv, radio debates are a mutual admiration societies. Change in real life in inevitable and unstoppable, all that matters is are you with the change or are you left behind.

Also with all the freedom erosion rants, maybe I am just unaware but what freedom is exactly been taken away in Obama years, or for that matter in Bush years, through legislation, some actual Federal law that prohibits something that was allowed but is not anymore.

TheRumpledOne
6,529 posts
msg #105890
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4/11/2012 11:11:44 PM

IN MY INBOX:


The $50 Lesson

Recently, while I was working in the flower beds in the front yard, my neighbors stopped to chat as they returned home from walking their dog.

During our friendly conversation, I asked their 12 year old daughter what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be President someday.

Both of her parents - liberal Democrats - were standing there, so I asked her, "If you were President what would be the first thing you would do?"

She replied, "I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people."

Her parents beamed with pride!

"Wow...what a worthy goal!" I said. "But you don't have to wait until you're President to do that!" I told her.

"What do you mean?" she replied.

So I told her, "You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and trim my hedge, and I'll pay you $50. Then you can go over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house."

She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?"

I said, "Welcome to the Republican Party."

Her parents aren't speaking to me.













TheRumpledOne
6,529 posts
msg #105898
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4/12/2012 3:34:25 PM

IN MY INBOX:

If you are a fan of our current President and don’t want to see these truths, just hit delete.

I WANT TO GET RE-ELECTED

An old West Virginia Hillbilly saying:

You cannot get the water to clear up until you get the pigs out of the creek.
SOME OF YOU MAY APPRECIATE THIS, AND SOME OF YOU MAY NOT.

I DO NOT APOLOGIZE FOR SENDING THIS BECAUSE OF ITS TRUTH.

If any other of our Presidents had doubled the national debt, which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have approved?

If any other of our Presidents had then proposed to double the debt again within 10 years, would you have approved?

If any other of our Presidents had criticized a state law that he admitted he never even read, would you think that he is just an ignorant hot head?

If any other of our Presidents joined the country of Mexico and sued a state in the United States to force that state to continue to allow illegal immigration, would you question his patriotism and wonder whose side he was on?


If any other of our Presidents had pronounced the Marine Corps like Marine Corpse, would you think him an idiot?

If any other of our Presidents had put 87,000 workers out of work by arbitrarily placing a moratorium on offshore oil drilling on companies that have one of the best safety records of any industry because one foreign company had an accident, would you have agreed?

If any other of our Presidents had used a forged document as the basis of the moratorium that would render 87,000 American workers unemployed would you support him?

If any other of our Presidents had been the first President to need a Teleprompter installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have laughed and said this is more proof of how inept he is on his own and is really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?

If any other of our Presidents had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take his First Lady to a play in NYC, would you have approved?

If any other of our Presidents had reduced your retirement plan holdings of GM stock by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have approved?

If any other of our Presidents had made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics, would you have approved?

If any other of our Presidents had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically significant gift, would you have approved?

If any other of our Presidents had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought it a proud moment for America ?

If any other of our Presidents had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia would you have approved? *

If any other of our Presidents had visited Austria and made reference to the nonexistent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a minor slip?

If any other of our Presidents had filled his Cabinet and circle of Advisers with people who cannot seem to keep current in their income taxes, would you have approved?

If any other of our Presidents had stated that there were 57 states in the United States, wouldn't you have had second thoughts about his capabilities?

If any other of our Presidents would have flown all the way to Denmark to make a five minute speech about how the Olympics would benefit him walking out his front door in his home town, would you not have thought he was a self-important, conceited, egotistical jerk?

If any other of our Presidents had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to "Cinco de Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the 5th of May (Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, wouldn't you have winced in embarrassment?

If any other of our Presidents had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a single tree on Earth Day, would you have concluded he's a hypocrite?

If any other of our Presidents' administrations had okayed Air Force One flying low over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually get what happened on 9-11?

If any other of our Presidents had failed to send relief aid to flood victims throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than in New Orleans, would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue with claims of racism and incompetence?

If any other of our Presidents had created the position of 32 Czars who report directly to him, bypassing the House and Senate on much of what is happening in America, would you have ever approved?

If any other of our Presidents had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have approved?

So, tell me again, what is it about Obama

that makes him so brilliant and impressive?

Can't think of anything?

Don't worry.

He's done all this in 34 months so you don’t have that much time to come up with an answer.

Every statement and action in this email is factual

and directly attributable to

Barrack Hussein Obama.

Every bumble is a matter of record and completely verifiable.

AND NOW--

HE ACTUALLY WANTS US TO RE-ELECT HIM.

WAKE UP AMERICA, 2012 IS UPON US.

I WONDER HOW MANY OF YOU WILL FORWARD THIS ?

I AM BECAUSE I CANNOT AFFORD TO TAKE A CHANCE ON THIS GUY FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS . . .

"All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."









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