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| chetron 2,817 posts msg #92433 - Ignore chetron |
5/10/2010 9:13:19 PM point proven, illegal immigration is increasingly irrelevent as those folk are more like you, to the point that they don't even exist |
| TheRumpledOne 6,529 posts msg #92434 - Ignore TheRumpledOne |
5/10/2010 9:22:52 PM Thank you for posting this: http://immigrationcounters.com/ |
| TheRumpledOne 6,529 posts msg #92435 - Ignore TheRumpledOne |
5/10/2010 9:26:16 PM chetron david, whether someone is documented or not doesn't determine a person's actions. in all populations, you will have good and bad. i am in massachusetts and we have big problem with undocumented canedien's and irish folk, you don't see any outrage?????? no one seems to post or create fbi websites to oust them. ====================================================== How BIG is the problem? If they are illegal, they need to go. Please let the world know how big the problem is in MA. I'll be happy to help spread the word. We should treat ALL immigrants like Mexico does: At present, Article 67 of Mexico's Population Law says, "Authorities, whether federal, state or municipal ... are required to demand that foreigners prove their legal presence in the country, before attending to any issues." That would simplify things. We do NOT need immigration reform. We need immigration ENFORCEMENT! WAKE UP AMERICA AND SMELL THE HYPOCRISY |
| TheRumpledOne 6,529 posts msg #92436 - Ignore TheRumpledOne |
5/10/2010 10:18:29 PM Civil rights and double standards: Gun owners are forced to "show papers," but media say illegal aliens shouldn't have to By Tim Inwood I've been watching with some interest the fallout over the new Arizona law dealing with illegal aliens. I hear the news media moaning that the new law "makes it a crime to be an illegal alien." I'm not joking, that is exactly how they phrased it on several networks and cable news shows. Wow, that is what I always thought illegal meant. I really wish the media would think about what they utter. I hear President Obama, the ACLU and liberals in general say that to ask someone to show identification to prove they are an American citizen is a violation of their civil rights. These same folks, as I recall, told us that asking someone to show ID when voting is a violation of their civil rights as well. So now I am a bit confused. With such a broad definition of what a civil right is, and the slightest inconvenience in enforcing the law an outrage, will someone please explain something to me? Why, when using the above logic, that when exercising your civil right to buy and own a gun you have to show identification and undergo a background check to purchase that gun? After all, the U.S. Supreme Court told us in the 2008 Heller decision that gun ownership is a constitutionally protected civil right. Also, tell me why when it comes to bearing those arms, a specifically enumerated constitutionally protected right, we must take concealed carry classes, pay high fees and again undergo additional background checks, fingerprinting and submit a specific size photograph to the state to do something specifically protected by the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and Article 1 section 4 of Ohio's Constitution. Was not turning a right into a state-issued privilege a violation of our rights? As I am writing this I am watching politicians and media talking heads saying this new law in Arizona is pure fascism and Nazi-like demands to "show their papers." Oh really! As a concealed handgun license-holder in Ohio, in any encounter with a police officer I am required under penalty of law to disclose I am a CHL-holder (if I am carrying), and then show identification. Funny how I don't see my fellow CHL holders protesting or rioting over that. Prior to 1968 in the United States, citizens in most states could buy firearms via mail order with no identification. You just clipped out the ad, told the dealer what you wanted, sent in your check and your postal carrier delivered the gun to your door, with ammo if you ordered that too. I am old enough to remember those days. However, all that ended with the Gun Control Act of 1968, a law largely written by Democrat Senator Thomas Dodd, father of current Senator Chris Dodd. The 1968 U.S. law was largely based on a gun control law written in 1938 that Dodd Sr. learned about while serving on the staff of those prosecuting war criminals in Nuremberg following World War II. That law forced firearm purchasers to show identification "papers" and registry of those arms. Who wrote this law? The National Socialist German government! That is where we got the U.S. 1968 Gun Control Act! That is inarguably a Nazi piece of legislation where you do have to show "papers." So I have to ask, where is the screaming and gnashing of teeth about that Nazi law? Where is the media's and President Obama's outrage over this truly NAZI violation of civil rights? I'd love to hear the tortured logic. After all, the crime rate among American gun owners is far lower than that of illegal aliens. Meanwhile, let's enforce the laws and protect our borders. Tim Inwood is the current Legislative Liaison and Past President of the Clinton County Farmers and Sportsmen Association, an Endowment Member of the NRA and Life Member of the OGCA, Republican Central Committeeman for Chester Township A, in Clinton County, Ohio, and a volunteer for Buckeye Firearms Association. http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7252 |
| awj11669 14 posts msg #92437 - Ignore awj11669 modified |
5/10/2010 10:19:43 PM Is the truth racist again?? Lets just ruin are country so we can get political correctness right. WHY is the USA BANKRUPT? You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this: Boy, was I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS. I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until the y are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading the m. I also have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts... 1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments. Verify at: http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters7fd8 2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML 3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML 4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and the y cannot speak a word of English! Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt..0.HTML 5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML 6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/%20TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML 7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML 8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.HTML 9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSC%20RI%20PTS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML 10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, the ir children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US . Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn..com/TRANscriptS/0606/12/ldt..01.HTML < http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0606/12/ldt..01.HTML%3E; 11. During the year of 2005 the re were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries.. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the US from the Southern border. Verify at: Homeland Security Report: 12. The National policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.' Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute..org/PDF/deportation.PDF 13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to the ir countries of origin. Verify at: http://www ... rense.com/general75/niht.htm < http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm%3E; 14.. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .' Verify at: http: // www.drdsk.com/articleshtml < http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml%3E; http://ww/ % 20w.drdsk.com/articleshtml The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS $338,300,000,000.00 WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY. Are we THAT stupid? YES, FOR LETTING THOSE IN THE U.S.CONGRESS GET AWAY WITH LETTING THIS HAPPEN YEAR AFTER YEAR!!!!! |
| karennma 8,057 posts msg #92439 - Ignore karennma modified |
5/10/2010 10:34:32 PM Better Be Careful. Machete is coming!! Point and Click: "Hey Arizona, Don't ***k With This Mexican... MACHETE has some Cinco De Mayo words for you!!! " Then Scroll down to view trailer ... http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/44943?q=node/44943 BTW, I hate that wig Jessica Alba is wearing. ;>) That scene with Cheech Marin as the priest is hilarious! |
| johnpaulca 12,036 posts msg #92445 - Ignore johnpaulca |
5/11/2010 12:04:54 AM The other day, while discussing the under-funding of Canada 's and Provincial Health Care Program and the recently announced drastic cuts to health care budget, especially for seniors, a friend and I think we have found the solution. I am sure you have heard the ideas that if you're a senior you need to suck it up and give up the idea that you need any health care. A new hip? Unheard of! We simply can't afford to take care of you anymore. You don't need any medications for your high blood pressure, diabetes, heart problems, etc. Let's take care of the young people. After all, they will be ruling the world very soon. So here is OUR solution ..... When you turn 70, you get a gun and 4 bullets. You then shoot 2 federal MP's and 2 provincial MPP's. Of course, you will be sent to prison. BUT ...... the good thing is you will get 3 meals a day, a roof over your head and all the health care you need! Plus the old age pension. JUST IMAGINE ... New teeth ... Absolutely! Need glasses, hearing aid, or cataracts removed? ..... No problem! New hip, knee, kidney, heart? ... Well ,bring it on! What about motorized wheel-chair ... Definitely, no questions asked! And who will be paying for all of this? The same governments that just told you that you are too old for health care. And, best of all, since you are a prisoner, you don't have to pay any income tax! How about that for a great solution?!?!?! Don't know why someone didn't think of this sooner! Any questions???? |
| FuriousThug 256 posts msg #92448 - Ignore FuriousThug |
5/11/2010 1:29:07 AM Yes. Why only 4 bullets? |
| traderseb 36 posts msg #92455 - Ignore traderseb |
5/11/2010 6:46:47 AM chetron - Ignore chetron 5/10/2010 7:38:05 PM the racism couldn't get more blatant. You should try living in a southern border state for awhile, most likely won't changed your mind coming from Mass. but you might see the difference. If you open your eyes you may realize why we are outraged at the lack of fed gov't upholding the laws concerning illegal immigration. |
| karennma 8,057 posts msg #92460 - Ignore karennma modified |
5/11/2010 9:15:49 AM johnpaulca - johnpaulca 5/11/2010 12:04:54 AM Of course, you will be sent to prison. BUT ...... the good thing is you will get 3 meals a day, a roof over your head and all the health care you need! Plus the old age pension. ================================================================== JP ... That reminds me ... Last year, after my co. went out of business, I got a job in an upscale area of town at a local boutique. The first day was orientation ... There were 4 "new" employees. Two of us arrived at the store 40 minutes early .. me and another woman. I struck up a conversation with the woman and began discussing how hard it was to get a job if you didn't know Microsoft Office Suites. The woman told me she knew all MS office software, Powerpoint, Access, Excel etc., Quickbooks, Peachtree, Intuit, and on and on and on. She told me she was an artist and had gallery representation where her paintings were sold. She was also a writer, and was in the process of publishing her poetry. During the course of the conversation, I noticed her teeth. I told her she had the most beautiful teeth I'd ever seen. They were so straight and white. I also mentioned that I hoped we didn't have to read alot during orientation, because I'd forgotten my glasses. She told me she wore contact lenses. THEN, I asked her "what kind of work" she did before this job. She said .... "I just got out of jail. How do you think I learned all this stuff? Got my teeth done in jail too!" She STILL had her health insurance. OMG! LOL! |
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