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TheRumpledOne
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msg #92093
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5/5/2010 8:25:16 AM

Ever hear of:

Operation Wetback was a 1954 operation by the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) to remove about one million illegal immigrants from the southwestern United States, focusing on Mexican nationals[1].

Operation Wetback in action

The effort began in California and Arizona and coordinated 1075 Border Patrol agents, along with state and local police agencies, to mount an aggressive crackdown, going as far as police sweeps of Mexican-American neighborhoods and random stops and ID checks of "Mexican-looking" people in a region with many Native Americans and native Hispanics. In some cases, illegal immigrants were deported along with their American-born minor dependent children as is standard international practice. This was although the children were by current legal interpretation of the 14th amendment U.S. citizens. [3] Some 750 agents targeted agricultural areas with a goal of 1000 apprehensions a day. By the end of July, over 50,000 immigrants were caught in the two states. Around 488,000 illegal immigrants are claimed to have left voluntarily for fear of being apprehended. By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and the INS estimates that 500,000 to 700,000 had left Texas on their own. To discourage re-entry, buses and trains took many deportees deep within Mexico before releasing them. Tens of thousands more were deported by two chartered ships, the Emancipation and the Mercurio. The ships ferried them from Port Isabel, Texas, to Veracruz, Mexico, more than 500 miles (800 kilometers) to the south. Some were taken as far as 1,000 miles. Deportation by sea was ended after seven deportees jumped overboard from the Mercurio and drowned, provoking a mutiny which led to a public outcry in Mexico.[4]



TheRumpledOne
6,529 posts
msg #92095
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5/5/2010 8:27:28 AM

chetron


so move to mexico and you will be able to focus on the better things in life, where you won't have any illegal worries. next time you are in cabo, stay. i am sure you can pass any social test they can muster.

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AMERICA - LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT?

NO!

AMERICA - LOVE IT ENOUGH TO FIGHT TO MAKE IT BETTER!!

Chetron, your argument is off point and you know it. Once again, you are making it PERSONAL. Quit trying to KILL THE MESSENGER.



chetron
2,817 posts
msg #92158
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5/5/2010 6:57:39 PM

i'm not trying to kill anyone, tro. i am just giving you very feasible solutions to YOUR problem. that's all. it benefits no one to know whether someone is from mexico or texas. you are creating YOUR own problem. if me suggesting to you, to go to cabo and be happy as killing the messenger, then please kill me.


hth


TheRumpledOne
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msg #92191
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5/6/2010 12:03:00 AM

Simple question:

What happens if someone jumps the fence and wanders around a gated community without an ID? I am sure a resident of the community calls the cops saying someone that doesn't look like they belong here is roaming the streets. The cops arrive. They would ask the wanderer a few questions. And since the wanderer does not have a valid reason for being inside the gated community, the cops would escort them out, wouldn't they? Isn't a country, like the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, a "gated community", too?

alf44
2,025 posts
msg #92196
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5/6/2010 12:43:50 AM


YO ... ASSHAT !!!

NEWSFLASH ... dig this TRO...as a BLACK MAN ... HELLO ... YOU are on the wrong side of this argument !!!

I got news for you ... moron ... if YOU ...Avery T. Horton ... walked through many neighborhoods in this country ... perfectly innocent ... minding your own business ... you would very likely be confronted ... probably by law enforcement ...you would likely be questioned ... if you were ...say..."perceived" to be difficult, beligerent, argumentative ... you would most likely be roughed up ...possibly beaten or tasered ...and needless to say ... probably handcuffed and hauled off to jail ! Or, worse !!!

AND IT WOULDN'T MATTER IF YOU HAD A FUCKING ID OR NOT ... FOOL !!! WAKEUP !!!

Rather ... it would happen ... JUST FOR BEING BLACK !!!

Let's not forget this country put 10s of thousands of "legal" Japanese Americans in "makeshift concentration camps" ...after Pearl Harbor !

Something tells me that YOU would have been ALL FOR THAT ... too !!!

You need to seriously take a look in the mirror and realize that YOU ... are on the wrong side of this argument !

Or, NOT !!!!

Whatever !!!

Who gives a shit !?!



petrolpeter
439 posts
msg #92202
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5/6/2010 4:12:39 AM

Alf,you are so passe.I live in the quiet Midwest,attend Catholic church,am anti abortion,anti gay,wear a Tea Party T(am not a tea bagger like Obama says),voted for McCain(things sure would be different now wouldn't they be),think foreigners should earn their citizenship,live independently by law and individual rights of the Constitution.Me and those like me are the dissenting terrorist that are the most threat in this country.Haven't you listened to any thing Obama says?

Not only that,NY Mayor M Bloomberg says the Times Square car bomb"could have been placed by somebody with a political agenda who doesn't like the health care bill or something. It could be anything.”I don't care for the Obama Austerity Care(Fannie Med) package either,but I was at home watching TV and mowing lawn,I swear!


TheRumpledOne
6,529 posts
msg #92234
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5/6/2010 3:07:41 PM

alf44


YO ... ASSHAT !!!

NEWSFLASH ... dig this TRO...as a BLACK MAN ... HELLO ... YOU are on the wrong side of this argument !!!

I got news for you ... moron ... if YOU ...Avery T. Horton ... walked through many neighborhoods in this country ... perfectly innocent ... minding your own business ... you would very likely be confronted ... probably by law enforcement ...you would likely be questioned ... if you were ...say..."perceived" to be difficult, beligerent, argumentative ... you would most likely be roughed up ...possibly beaten or tasered ...and needless to say ... probably hauled off to jail ! Or, worse !!!

AND IT WOULDN'T MATTER IF YOU HAD A FUCKING ID OR NOT ... FOOL !!! WAKEUP !!!

Rather ... it would happen ... JUST FOR BEING BLACK !!!

Let's not forget this country put 10s of thousands of "legal" Japanese Americans in "makeshift concentration camps" ...after Pearl Harbor ! Something tells me that YOU would have been ALL FOR THAT ... too !!!

You need to seriously take a look in the mirror and realize that YOU ... are on the wrong side of this argument !

Or, NOT !!!!

Whatever !!!

Who gives a shit !?!

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Alf44:

What you say about what could happen to me is TRUE. It is something that I am aware of at all times. From outer space, ALL of planet earth is a JUNGLE - AND THE LAWS APPLY - KILL OR BE KILLED. This does not mean to go around killing people. It means that when push comes to shove, you do want you have to do to stay alive.

But I am NOT on the wrong side of the argument. The US CODE TITLE 8 is clear - all aliens in this country must at all times carry proper documentation. IT IS THAT SIMPLE.

I argued against having to show my papers when I get on a plane. But that is the way it is now. So I do not see a problem with aliens having to show their papers.

OPERATION WETBACK deported over 1,000,000 Mexican illegals in the 1950s. It worked before. It can work again.

The USA is a gated community and so is Arizona. Arizona is doing what any other gated community would do.

We don't need immigration reform, we need immigration enforcement.

alf44
2,025 posts
msg #92266
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5/6/2010 11:06:41 PM


... TRO ... look in the mirror man ... as a MAN OF COLOR ... you simply can NOT be for this bill !!!

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Immigration Reform ? YES !

Without question this HAS to happen ... with strong leadership at the Federal level !

Without question ... the Obama Administration ... needs to step up here ! Hopefully, they will !

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This Arizona Bill ... is NOT a productive solution ! imo


DON'T SUPPORT THIS GARBAGE, MAN !

YOU'RE BETTER THAN THAT !!!



FuriousThug
256 posts
msg #92271
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5/6/2010 11:51:12 PM

TheRumpledOne
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modified 5/3/2010 5:28:30 PM


I still think if an illegal alien wanders onto your property, you are going to either pick up the phone to call the police or pick up a weapon and confront the trespasser. Then again you might welcome them into your home but I doubt it.
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How does one know the immigration status of someone walking onto their property?

Bad example.

I can tell you most places in the world, you can walk onto someone's property (even if you are, gasp!, different looking) and, rather than be met with guns and a police visit, be invited into their home and shown hospitality.
Ever been to the Middle East? Yemen, one of the poorest countries in the world...walk onto someone's property unannounced, unknown and you're more likely to be offered the little food they have than shot.

We're just afraid, that's all.

heypa
283 posts
msg #92293
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5/7/2010 11:26:35 AM

Furious Thug.
A great example Infidel .

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